Double, double, toil, and trouble! Lena Dunham led an extended interview with Lorde for the latest issue of Dazed and Confused magazine, and compared the singer and their friend group to witches in the chat.
The Girls creator, 29, caught up with her 18-year-old pal for Dazed‘s Girls Rule the World issue, where the two discussed everything from music to feminism to their parents, and even bonded over BFF and posse queen Taylor Swift. The New Zealand native spoke to Dunham about her quick rise to fame, and how her superstardom affected her friendships back home.
“With any transition you do lose people, which is sad, but some people don’t want to deal with what you’re doing or it freaks them out a bit,” she explained. “So there are people I’m not as close to now, but I still roll deep with my original dudes so it’s good… I have a lot of dude friends. I was kind of the camp mother of all the guys…. I feel like teenage boys, all their emotions are really simple and diluted. Teenage girls feel everything so intensely and are so multi-faceted. Boys are just like, they’ll rest a head on your shoulder and you know exactly what that means.”
Dunham voiced her admiration of Lorde for her understanding of the other sex, before mentioning the two stars’ own group of female friends.
“Speaking of camp mother, I feel that Taylor [Swift] has really taken control and said, ‘I’m going to get us all together in the same place, I’m gonna make it very clear that friendship is powerful and women are magic and if anybody thinks this is a witches’ coven they might be right,'” Dunham said of the high-powered crew that also involves Karlie Kloss, Selena Gomez, Jaime King, the Haim sisters, and Gigi Hadid, among others. “She’s just made it her job in a very cool way.”
While she may have a long history with her “dude friends,” Lorde echoed Dunham’s statement, reflecting on just how special these relationships are.
“She definitely brought me into this amazing world of supportive female friendship,” the “Royals” singer said. “For me, someone starts talking about boys and I’m like, ‘I just don’t know what to say.’ I’m useless in that capacity and that was why I thought, ‘Well, I can’t have girl friends [because] I don’t know how to talk about boys.’ But Taylor just glosses over the fact that I’m terrible at that and she’s just like, ‘It’s okay, I’ll love you for your other qualities.'”
