There’s Jodi! Steven Avery‘s former fiancée Jodi Stachowski, who is featured in Netflix’s Making a Murderer, speaks out in an exclusive new interview for HLN’s Nancy Grace, days after the show’s namesake host raised questions about the series during the Television Critics Association’s winter panel.
Stachowski reached out to Nancy Grace‘s producer, Natisha Lance, to share her side of the story. Lance previewed the pre-taped interview on HLN’s morning program on Wednesday, January 13.
In the preview, the two sit down face to face and discuss why Stachowski is suddenly choosing to speak out now. “It’s been 10 years,” Lance notes to her subject. “Why are you talking to me? What do you want people to know?”
“The truth,” Stachowski replies. “What a monster he is, and he’s not innocent.”
Though Stachowski defended Avery in the 10-part true-crime docuseries, she told HLN that she never loved her ex-fiancé. In fact, it was quite the opposite.
“I ate two boxes of rat poison just so I could go the hospital,” Stachowski revealed to Lance. “And get away from him, and ask them to get the police to help me.”
The news about the program’s exclusive interview with Stachowski was announced as Grace has made her opinion about Avery’s conviction loud and clear. This past weekend, Grace told reporters during a TCA panel that while she was a fan of Netflix’s series, she had other thoughts about the real-life situation.
“It’s not what I think. It’s what I know,” she told Us Weekly and other reporters. “Steve Avery is guilty. He murdered Teresa Halbach. He and his nephew [Brendan Dassey] raped and murdered her. I love Making a Murderer. It’s beautifully put together, it’s just leaving out about 60 or 70 percent of the evidence. I don’t think our justice system should be on the shoulders of two film students. I remember interviewing Steve Avery while we were still looking for Teresa … My knowledge at that time and now is that he brutally murdered this girl. True, he was wrongly convicted on a previous charge, and that’s a miscarriage of justice too. But he killed Teresa Halbach.”
(Prior to Halbach’s case in 2005, Avery spent 18 years behind bars for a sexual assault for which he was wrongly convicted.)
Stachowski herself claimed in her HLN interview that the petitions to pardon Avery — after the wildly popular release of Making a Murderer — are why she’s speaking out now. “She says that the truth needs to come out,” Lance said on HLN’s morning show on Wednesday. “And she says that the documentary is full of a bunch of lies.”
Stachowski’s full interview will air on HLN’s Nancy Grace on Wednesday night at 8 p.m. ET.