Jon Gosselin: My Therapist Says I Went From “32 to 23”

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Nancy Grace isn't the only one with a problem with Jon Gosselin.

In an episode of The Insider to air Tuesday night, Real Housewives of New York City's Bethenny Frankel goes off on fellow reality star Gosselin, 32.

"Everyone's mad at you right now," sneers Frankel, 38. 

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She goes on, "America has a big problem with the fact that [your kids] are growing up on a television show. You never know what the effects will be 20 years from now."

Frankel doesn't think Kate is any better.

"I'm as mad at her as at you," she says.

Frankel has a few words of advice for the dad of eight.

"I think you're defeated. You need to pull yourself up from your bootstraps and get back to your kids and get your crap together and get those kids off TV," she says. "You need to pull it together." 

Gosselin — who halted production on the TLC show — replies, "That's what I am trying to do." 

Gosselin also goes on to defend his behavior since splitting from Kate in July after 10 years of marriage. 

"I went from 32 to 23," he says. "My therapist has told me that. My therapist told me I went from 32 to 23."

Asserts Frankel: "It looks like you went through a rebellious phase." 

"Of course," Jon says.

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