Sticks and stones, ladies! On the second installment of The Real Housewives of New York City‘s season 8 reunion, the women got busy hurling insults at each other as they tried to make sense of issues ranging from Jules Wainstein‘s eating disorder recovery to Luann de Lesseps‘ fiancé Tom‘s history with Sonja Morgan and Ramona Singer. Somewhere in between accusations of others being “liars” and “delusional,” the women did stumble upon answers — thanks, in large part, to the focused questioning by host Andy Cohen.
Bethenny Accuses Jules of Going on the Show to Get Divorced
That’s a new one. After watching a reel of “highlights” from her marriage to her soon-to-be ex-husband, Michael, Jules got misty-eyed. “This year on the show is not what our marriage was,” she managed, “for the last 10 years.” When some of her costars tried pressing for more details about the state of affairs between the former spouses, Jules simply mumbled that she “can’t really talk about it.”
Bethenny Frankel then jumped in to explain that “mutual friends” of theirs had told her that Jules had signed a prenup and was “going on the show to get divorced.” Bethenny didn’t fully connect the dots from what Jules having (or not having) a prenup had to do with being on a reality show as her marriage crumbled, partly because Dorinda Medley didn’t give Bethenny a chance to explain. “You’re hurting her!” Dorinda chimed in. “She doesn’t want to talk about it, Bethenny. Respect that.” Bethenny did as she was told and dropped it …
Bethenny Calls Jules Out for Her Jokes About Being Jewish
… but that hardly meant Bethenny was done with Jules. As the topic turned toward Jules’ eating issues, Bethenny reiterated that being around her mother, who suffered a serious eating disorder, had been very traumatic for her as a young girl — and then Bethenny somehow spun the topic back to Jules’ Jewish heritage (which the cast newbie did like to talk about a lot during the season, it seemed).
“I don’t think that you represented a positive side of being Jewish at all,” Bethenny said before listing things Jules had done. The list include items such as bragging about hiring a woman to potty train her child for a $2,000 fee, and asking her nanny if she would wait in line at a sample sale. In fact, Bethenny took it one step further and said Jules was making fun of Jews.
“You can’t say that!” Sonja snapped. Bethenny replied, “I can do whatever I want, Sonja.” Dorinda then went off on a bit of a tangent, arguing Carole Radziwill was only interested in hanging out with Bethenny this season, but looped back to the situation with Jules.
“I always stick up for Jules if I feel she’s being hurt,” Dorinda explained, mentioning that she had been somewhat responsible for bringing Jules into the fold. “I feel like I need to protect her … and I stand by that.” Bethenny shrugged, and everyone moved on to Luann and Tom.
Ramona Recounts (in Detail) Her History With Tom
Well, kinda. When asked about Tom for the bazillionth time, Lu explained that she “knew in the first week” that Tom was going to be her next husband. She added that when she marries him, she will, in fact, lose her countess title, but insisted she would “always somewhere be the countess.” She smiled and said, “But Tom said to me, ‘You’re going to lose your title and marry a commoner,’ and I said, ‘There is nothing common about you.'” Bethenny couldn’t help herself, smirking, “There are a couple of things in common.” Luann shrugged this off as Ramona launched a detailed account of her history with Tom.
Listing the places they’d frequented together, Ramona cited the romantic restaurants Raoul’s, Indochine and Il Mulino, and added that they’d played pool. Sonja noted that while this had been going on, she’d been seeing him too. “I’m single now,” Jules mused. “Maybe I’m going to get to date Tom!”
Luann just rolled her eyes as everyone else counted up the total number of times Ramona and Tom had been out, and tried to figure out why he would have lied and said it had only been once. Then Ramona showed Luann a photograph that showed Ramona’s hand with a heart drawn on the palm with Tom’s initials and her initials. Luann said it was childish and obviously was determined to not hear any of this.
“She doesn’t know what a lie is, because she lies so much!” Carole shouted as Bethenny called Luann “Lie-ann.” (Get it?) “Back off!” Luann snapped before calling Sonja “delusional.”
Sonja Finally Says Exactly How Many Times She Slept With Lu’s Fiancé
Sonja then explained how sad she’d gotten during Luann and Tom’s engagement party on the boat since she and Tom had been friends with a special arrangement for some time.
“You were friends, Sonja. There was no arrangement,” Luann barked.
“We were lovers!” Sonja shouted back. Luann responded by insisting that Tom had only slept with Sonja one time, prompting Andy to ask how Luann could believe what Tom said about Sonja when he had clearly lied about how many times he’d gone out with Ramona. Luann didn’t have a good answer for that (or any answer, really), and fumbled over her words until she said something about the details being “inconsequential.”
Andy then asked Sonja how many times they’d knocked boots. “Enough that I’ve been to his house, he’s been in my bed, I’ve been in his bed,” she said (trying to evade the question). But Andy didn’t let her off the hook and eventually she estimated five times.
“I don’t think she remembers,” Luann said. “She can’t remember how she gets home!” Ramona then tried a different approach, telling Luann she saw a lot of red flags with Tom and was concerned for Luann’s happiness.
“We are soulmates, and we are getting married, “Luann replied.
Sonja then said she’d recently seen Tom out and about, and he’d told her if she didn’t start corroborating his story that they’d only slept together once, it was going to come between her friendship with Luann. Sonja argued Tom had basically threatened her. “He didn’t threaten you, Sonja!” Luann said with a serious eye roll.
Andy then asked everyone to vote on whether Luann and Tom would really get married come New Year’s Eve. Bethenny said she thought they would. Sonja said she hoped they would. Ramona said she had no idea. And Jules said she just hoped Luann was happy.
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