Swaggy C Applauds ‘Big Brother’ for Diverse ‘All-Stars’ Cast

Speaking out to make a change. Swaggy C does not hold back on the new episode of the “Let’s Talk About It With Taylor Nolan” podcast, sharing that he’s thrilled that change has happened behind the scenes on reality TV.

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“I feel like, over the last 20 years, Big Brother has done a terrible job with diversity just in general, because every year, it’s only one Black person or two Black people and one gay person and then the rest is just all white,” Swaggy, whose real name is Chris Williams, says in Us Weekly‘s exclusive sneak peek of the Wednesday, August 12, episode. “That’s all there is and that’s not representation.”

Swaggy, 25, competed on season 20 of Big Brother and met his now-wife, Bayleigh Dayton. He then went on to appear on season 35 of The Challenge: Total Madness. Although he is not part of Big Brother: All-Stars, Dayton, 27, is.

“This year, they did a great job. It’s, like, eight people of color and eight Caucasians. It’s like, ‘Wow OK, we have that.’ The Challenge has been exceptional — above and beyond — over the last I don’t know how many [years],” the day trader continues. “You can go decades back. They always were diverse. If they wanted to have a cast of 10 Black people, they could do that because they didn’t really care so much about race. They more so cared about who’s going to give us the best TV show. And that’s what I love about The Challenge.”

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During the interview, Swaggy also detailed his decision to quit reality TV, sharing that if he had been invited onto Big Brother: All-Stars, he would not have returned.

“Me quitting reality TV had nothing to do with the producers, it was more so the people and the fans,” he tells host Taylor Nolan. “The producers from both shows are nothing but amazing to me.”

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Dayton, for her part, hopes to “be the first Black female winner of Big Brother,” Swaggy adds. “So it’s not really a money thing that we’re going for, it’s more so representation, and if she doesn’t get that, then it is what it is. As long as Da’Vonne [Rogers] or somebody, you know what I mean, wins, it’s time.”

The “Let’s Talk About It with Taylor Nolan” podcast drops on Wednesday, August 12, at 9 p.m. PT.

Big Brother airs on CBS Wednesdays, Thursdays and Sundays at 8 p.m. ET.

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