Sometimes it's easier to open up to people you barely know than the people in your inner circle — at least, it sure seemed that way on the Wednesday, March 16, episode of Kocktails With Khloé. Guests included Lauren Ash from Superstore, Travis Barker of Blink-182 fame, actress turned cookbook author Tia Mowry-Hardrict and Brian J. White from Scandal.
After about one half of one sip of her drink (which was called Le Grand Visage, just FYI), Ash was busy recounting some of her dating war stories to Khloé Kardashian and Mowry-Hardrict. Highlights included a homeless person, a dating service that had rejected her application and a guy who went on a rant about the glory of genetically modified foods.
Though Mowry-Hardrict insisted she knew several people who had met on dating sites and were now happily married with children, Ash vowed to stick to her digital dating "cleanse." For her part, Kardashian offered her critique of OkCupid's profile questions, arguing that they barely scratched the surface. "They had nothing to do with your soul or getting to know me, so I thought maybe that's why these dating sites aren't working," she explained. (She's not actually on OkCupid.)
Not Everything Is Black and White
The conversation turned more serious as Mowry-Hardrict and Kardashian discussed their experiences with racism. Tia recounted an incident ten years back when her family was buying a house. "My mom went in — it was this affluent neighborhood — to get an application, and they said, 'Oh, we're sorry — we're sold out,'" she recalled. "Then my mom sent in my dad, who is white, and I will say, my mom now has that house. So I do believe it still exists." Kardashian nodded and jumped in.
"I was in an interracial marriage," she began. "I would never think to have to say, 'Oh, by the way — my husband's black, so when he comes in don't let your jaw drop!'" She said that her move to Dallas for Lamar Odom's stint on the Mavericks was the first time that was really thrown in her face, but added that it wasn’t her first brush with racism.
"My dad defended O.J. [Simpson] in the O.J. trial. That was the first time that I experienced racism," she said. "We'd get kicked out of restaurants because my dad was defending O.J. or just really crazy things. It was really intense, and as kids, you don't understand. And in my house, I was never allowed to describe a person with weight or color, so I'd have to give a personal characteristic. I was never allowed to say, 'Oh, the chubby girl.' My dad was superstrict about that, but, yeah, racism is real."
How Travis Got Sober
Moving on from racism, they discussed Barker's sobriety. While he admitted that he saw "an immediate want to change" from the time his two children were born over a decade ago, the musician said his transformation didn't happen overnight.
"At the time, I was wild, and I was crazy, and I was on tour all the time, so there was definitely a struggle with the Travis that would be on tour and the Travis that wanted to be home with his kids," he explained. "There was a really — I struggled really, really bad. It was difficult. Eventually, it led to me being sober. It's been five years." Everyone congratulated him on that milestone.
Still, it took an even more dramatic event to get him to kick the drugs. "It took my plane crash to stop doing a lot of the drugs I was doing, and then afterwards, I just smoked weed," he said. "I planned to smoke until I was 100, like Willie Nelson–style, and then in the middle of an album, I got diagnosed with … pre-cancer in [my] esophagus, and that was kind of my wake-up call." He added, "Once you've buried four of your best friends, and you have five months in a burn center on morphine, it kind of changed things. I left there going, I never want to put a drug in my body again."
Kerry Washington Brings Her Daughter to the Scandal Set
On a lighter note, White revealed that his Scandal costar (OK, the star) Kerry Washington has mastered the art of the working mom. "Kerry's the most positive, sophisticated actress," he gushed. "She's worked with everybody, and she maintains her family life. She has her daughter on set with her and she feeds her daughter in between takes." In other words, if there was ever any doubt that Kerry Washington is perfect — she is.
After a prank call to Kris Jenner (who may or may not have driven to Drake's house in a desperate attempt to get him to make a last-minute appearance on Kardashian's show), and the revelation that when Kardashian bought Justin Bieber's house, the neighbors — who presumably hated his antics — kept coming over to thank her for not being him, Kardashian shed some light on her recent weight loss and also just how massive Kim Kardashian's breasts are.
How Big Are Kim Kardashian's Boobs?
Khloé explained she didn't set out with the goal to lose weight. "What made me start losing weight was, I was going through my divorce, and my divorce was so public that no matter where I'd go, I'd just hear negative things, and I didn't want to go home because that just wasn't an escape, so I started going to the gym," she explained. "It was a stress reliever, but as a byproduct, I started losing weight. It wasn't intentional, but then once I started doing that, I loved how I felt."
These days, however, her sister Kim is not loving her shape. "Kimberly just had a baby, and she was at this shoot with me yesterday, and she was like, 'I lost three pounds, but nothing fits me,'" Khloé reported. "And I was like, 'Kim, your tits are, like, 50 pounds each! Why are you weighing yourself? … Don't weigh yourself!'" (Or, if she must, she should at least deduct the 100 pounds of breast tissue from the number.)
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Kocktails With Khloé airs on FYI on Wednesdays at 10 p.m. ET.
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