Hailey Bieber Opens Up About Sex With Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez Drama and More on ‘Call Her Daddy’: Biggest Revelations

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Hailey Bieber Opens Up About Sex With Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez Drama and More on 'Call Her Daddy': Biggest Revelations

Her side of the story. Hailey Bieber (née Baldwin) peeled back the layers of her marriage to Justin Bieber, the duo's alleged controversy with Selena Gomez and more on "Call Her Daddy." The model, 25, sat down with host Alex Cooper for the podcast's latest installment on Wednesday, September 28, dishing on everything from her sex life with the "Love Yourself" artist, 28, to his history with Gomez, 30. "It's hard for me to talk about this because I don't want to talk on either one of their behalf because it was their relationship," she said. "I honestly respect that very deeply, but I just know what was going on when we got back together. And I know what had to happen for that to come back together in a healthy way, and I think it was the most healthy, mature decision that he could have made and I respect that." She continued: "As a woman, I would never want to get into a relationship with someone and be engaged to them and be getting married to them and think in the back of my mind, 'I wonder if that was really closed for you.' I know for a fact that the reason we were able to get back together was because it was very much completely closed." Fans got a taste of Hailey's bombshell episode in a teaser uploaded via the "Call Her Daddy" Instagram account on Monday, September 26, during which Cooper pressed, "Were you ever with Justin romantically at the same time as [Selena]?" The Arizona native took a beat before responding, saying: "This is so crazy, I've literally never talked about this ever. A lot of the hate and perpetuation comes from [people thinking], like, 'Oh, you stole him.' It's about people knowing the truth. Because there's a truth." [sendtonews type="float" key="RyTBLFF23H-2832855-14453"] Hailey and the Canadian pop star, 28, were first spotted making out on New Year's Eve in December 2015 after Justin's on-off relationship with Gomez, now 30, hit a breaking point. After dating for several months, the "Baby" crooner and Hailey called it quits. Justin and the Disney Channel alum rekindled their romance in November 2017. The Grammy winner and the Only Murders in the Building star broke up and got back together several times since they were first linked in 2011, calling it quits for good in May 2018. "Selena started seeing the bigger picture when it came to their relationship," a source told Us Weekly exclusively at the time, adding that Gomez "chose happiness" and felt "more empowered than ever" post-split. Two months later, Justin proposed to Hailey. The couple exchanged vows at a New York City courthouse in September 2018, hosting a more traditional wedding ceremony with family and friends one year later in South Carolina. After her ex's second nuptials, a source told Us that Gomez was in a "good place" and knew she was "better off" without the "Peaches" artist. "Selena has an amazing support system and couldn't be more grateful," the insider exclusively revealed, noting that the Spring Breakers star was "solely focused on herself and enjoying life to the best of her ability." Though Justin and his wife don't cross paths with the "Lose You to Love Me" singer often, fans are still fascinated by their tangled history. Earlier this year, Hailey hit back at social media trolls who compared her to Gomez in the comments of her TikTok videos. "Leave me alone at this point," she pleaded in April. "I'm minding my business. I don't do anything, I don't say anything. Leave me alone, please. Enough time has gone by where it's valid to leave me alone. I beg of you. Truly. That's my only request. Be miserable somewhere else, please." One month later, the Rare Beauty founder faced backlash of her own when some TikTok users thought she was mocking Hailey in a video showing her detailed skincare routine. "This is why I believe in taking care of your mental health," Gomez wrote in a comment in May. "Guys no idea what I did but I really am sorry. Zero bad intention. Deleting soon." Scroll down for the biggest revelations from Hailey's "Call Her Daddy" episode:

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Hailey Bieber Opens Up About Sex With Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez Drama and More on 'Call Her Daddy': Biggest Revelations

Her side of the story. Hailey Bieber (née Baldwin) peeled back the layers of her marriage to Justin Bieber, the duo's alleged controversy with Selena Gomez and more on "Call Her Daddy." The model, 25, sat down with host Alex Cooper for the podcast's latest installment on Wednesday, September 28, dishing on everything from her sex life with the "Love Yourself" artist, 28, to his history with Gomez, 30. "It's hard for me to talk about this because I don't want to talk on either one of their behalf because it was their relationship," she said. "I honestly respect that very deeply, but I just know what was going on when we got back together. And I know what had to happen for that to come back together in a healthy way, and I think it was the most healthy, mature decision that he could have made and I respect that." She continued: "As a woman, I would never want to get into a relationship with someone and be engaged to them and be getting married to them and think in the back of my mind, 'I wonder if that was really closed for you.' I know for a fact that the reason we were able to get back together was because it was very much completely closed." Fans got a taste of Hailey's bombshell episode in a teaser uploaded via the "Call Her Daddy" Instagram account on Monday, September 26, during which Cooper pressed, "Were you ever with Justin romantically at the same time as [Selena]?" The Arizona native took a beat before responding, saying: "This is so crazy, I've literally never talked about this ever. A lot of the hate and perpetuation comes from [people thinking], like, 'Oh, you stole him.' It's about people knowing the truth. Because there's a truth." [sendtonews type="float" key="RyTBLFF23H-2832855-14453"] Hailey and the Canadian pop star, 28, were first spotted making out on New Year's Eve in December 2015 after Justin's on-off relationship with Gomez, now 30, hit a breaking point. After dating for several months, the "Baby" crooner and Hailey called it quits. Justin and the Disney Channel alum rekindled their romance in November 2017. The Grammy winner and the Only Murders in the Building star broke up and got back together several times since they were first linked in 2011, calling it quits for good in May 2018. "Selena started seeing the bigger picture when it came to their relationship," a source told Us Weekly exclusively at the time, adding that Gomez "chose happiness" and felt "more empowered than ever" post-split. Two months later, Justin proposed to Hailey. The couple exchanged vows at a New York City courthouse in September 2018, hosting a more traditional wedding ceremony with family and friends one year later in South Carolina. After her ex's second nuptials, a source told Us that Gomez was in a "good place" and knew she was "better off" without the "Peaches" artist. "Selena has an amazing support system and couldn't be more grateful," the insider exclusively revealed, noting that the Spring Breakers star was "solely focused on herself and enjoying life to the best of her ability." Though Justin and his wife don't cross paths with the "Lose You to Love Me" singer often, fans are still fascinated by their tangled history. Earlier this year, Hailey hit back at social media trolls who compared her to Gomez in the comments of her TikTok videos. "Leave me alone at this point," she pleaded in April. "I'm minding my business. I don't do anything, I don't say anything. Leave me alone, please. Enough time has gone by where it's valid to leave me alone. I beg of you. Truly. That's my only request. Be miserable somewhere else, please." One month later, the Rare Beauty founder faced backlash of her own when some TikTok users thought she was mocking Hailey in a video showing her detailed skincare routine. "This is why I believe in taking care of your mental health," Gomez wrote in a comment in May. "Guys no idea what I did but I really am sorry. Zero bad intention. Deleting soon." Scroll down for the biggest revelations from Hailey's "Call Her Daddy" episode:

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Why She Doesn't Get Involved in Drama

Hailey pointed out that clapping back at a troll once sometimes makes you "get stuck having to explain yourself for every little thing" online. "I had to get over that because I was in a place at one point where I felt like I wanted to, like, explain the narrative and explain myself and like, that's also exhausting," she said. "So if it's, like, every single time I do an interview or if I say something and there's going to be something that people are like, 'Why would she say that?' or 'She's wrong for saying that' or 'That doesn't make sense' ... No matter what I say, I'm always going to have to be explaining myself to people."

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Why She Said Marriage Is Hard Work

"What I mean when I said hard work is just, like, there's compromise [and] there's sacrifices. I feel that way in most relationships in my life, even friendships, even work relationships, like, they can be tough," she clarified. "I didn't mean it just overall. ... It's literally the best thin ever. The whole sentence of what I said was like, 'He's my best friend. I love coming home to him but, like, yeah, it takes work because I'm 25 years old and I have a life and I have a career. I have my own friends, so [I'm] trying to balance making my wants and needs and hopes and dreams work while meshing my life with another human who has his hopes and dreams and career. Like, we're busy people and we want to be in a marriage so we're making it work and sometimes it's hard."

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The Best Parts of Her Marriage to Justin

Hailey called the "Yummy" artist her "best friend," adding: "There's nothing better than being with the person that makes you smile the most, makes you laugh the most, like, he's just literally the best human to me ever." 

She explained that she isn't "as sensitive" to criticism about her relationship now than she used to be. "He's a person who has been through a lot and he shouldn't have gotten to the other side of a lot of what he's been through," she continued. "He's overcome so many different things in his life [from] being famous so young and the fact that he's as normal as he is ... I just love him. ... He understands me more than anybody ever has in my whole life, and I think that goes both ways." 

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Why Her and Justin's Engagement Got Backlash

The model opened up about being "really young" when she and Justin got engaged, which she "personally never thought" would be her experience. "The timing was obviously very rapid and very fast," she recalled. "Now being four years past that [and] looking back on it, I totally get it. I'm like, 'Yeah, that seemed really drastic and really crazy,' but that was what we felt was a decision between the two of us and it felt correct for the two of us at the time."

Hailey admitted that "the timeline" of what went down in Justin's previous relationship before their engagement was tricky. "The only people who really know the truth of the situation and what the timeline really was and how it happened and how it went down are, like, me and him," she asserted, adding, "I was there and I was living it every day."

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The Selena Gomez of It All

Hailey declared that she was never involved with Justin romantically at the same time as the Wizards of Waverly Place alum. "When him and I ever started, like, hooking up or anything of that sort, he was not ever in a relationship ever — at any point," she explained. "I'm not interested in doing that and I never was. ... I can say — period, point blank — I was never with him when he was in a relationship with anybody."

She went on to tease that she's "literally never talked about this ever," noting that she could "understand" how some fans may have interpreted the timeline differently "from the outside." 

Hailey continued: "That was a situation where I know for a fact that it was the right thing for them to close that door. They were not in a relationship at that time, but of course, there's a very long history there. ... It has nothing to do with me. I know that it closed a chapter and I think it was the best thing that could have happened for him to move on and be engaged and get married and move on with his life in that way."

Elsewhere in the podcast, Hailey revealed she and Gomez have spoken in the years since she married Justin. "That's why I'm like, it's all respect, it's all love," she said. "That's also why I feel like if everybody on our side knows what happened and we're good and we could walk away from it with clarity and respect then that's fine. ... Which had brought me a lot of peace and I'm like, 'We know what happened it is what it is.' You're never going to be able to correct every narrative."

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Why People Think She 'Stole' Justin From Selena

The former Drop the Mic cohost pointed out that some people have been seemingly rooting for her and the "Sorry" singer to fail since before they even tied the knot. "It just comes from, like, the fact that they wished he had ended up with someone else, and that's fine," she said. "Like, you can wish that all you want but that's just not the case."

Hailey said that she almost feels a "numbness" to receiving nasty messages from social media users. "It still happens to this day. ... But you just reach a point where you just, like, you have to just ignore it." 

The drama also takes a toll on Hailey's husband. "I know that for him that's hurtful because if we have moved on, why can't you?" 

She went on to send a message to any Gomez fans who continue to send her hate, noting: "The first thing I would say is you're not obligated to like me, but I believe that no matter what there can always be mutual respect between people and to me that means, you don't have to say anything. You don't have to like me, but you don't have to say anything either because behind this person that you're looking at on a screen is a person with a brain and a heart and emotions and issues that I face and so do you. ... Just mutual respect and decency and know that what you say can have impact and know that."

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What Happened at the 2021 Met Gala?

"I did hear people yelling. It wasn't making me almost cry. I think seeing the video back after made me like, 'Damn, that sucks. That's the energy people are putting out.' ... It was disrespectful to me [and] to my relationship," she recalled of attending the 2021 Met Gala with her husband and being met with fans screaming Gomez's name. "It just was [disrespectful] — period, the end. But I think I've endured so much disrespect and I still do to this day there was a part of me that was just like, 'Another day, another negative slay.'"

Following the September 2021 event, Hailey realized how "important" it is to have "a support system" to help through even the "really dark" times. She also revealed that she attended a seven-day "therapy intensive" at the end of 2021 into early 2022. 

"There's also this weird twisted thing where I'm like, 'I don't get to feel that way because I have an amazing life and I'm so blessed and I'm so fortunate,'" she continued. "It's almost like my dialogue in my head feels like, 'Get the f--k over it, you don't get to feel that way because there are people in this world that are really struggling and you're not.' That's sometimes how I feel like I talk to myself. ... I've had to really try to be more gentle with myself."

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'Married People Sex' With Justin

The couple prefer to spice things up at night. "But I do like morning [sex] too," Hailey teased. "It's so funny because I talk about this stuff and the reason I get weird about talking about it is because my parents are going to listen to this. There's something that feels so cringe about your parents. ... I also have this theory that people don't care about married people sex."

Hailey admitted that there are some things that "wouldn't work" for her and Justin to try in the bedroom, including threesomes. "I think sometimes for some people it does. ... I think the second you make the decision to do that there's never going back from that and I just don't know that I would ever be willing," she said. "We've worked very hard to be in the space that we’re in now and trusting each other. There's such a beautiful trust and bond that I don't think that's something I would be comfortable with. Or him, for that matter."